Posted on Jan 11th, 2009
by
Naumadd
The way the question is asked, it is rather suggestive of the notion that "suffering" has inherent value regardless of who is doing the suffering. I'm compelled to ask - who exactly is suffering, why are they suffering, what do THEY think and how do THEY feel about it? No general statement regarding "suffering" can be made to fit all instances of suffering. In other words, the question "Do you believe there is value in suffering?", outside of specific context, has no supportable answer.
If you ask, "in some cases, does suffering have value", then I'd have to answer yes AND no. In some cases it does, in others it certainly does not.
All in all, I have to say from experience and from what I believe about the nature of life in general, although suffering seems to be seemingly inevitable as the Buddha pointed out, suffering isn't desirable as a goal. In other words, suffering isn't the point of life because what one is saying is unhappiness ought to be a goal of life at most equal with happiness. I disagree. Assuming one loves one's life and wants it to continue, the only rational goal is good health and happiness. To seek unhappiness or suffering deliberately with that set of values is, at least in one's own case, immoral in that it violate one's own values - love of life and a desire for it to continue. To seek unhappiness and suffering deliberately isn't "love of life" as I understand it. Of course, if one does NOT love life and does NOT want it to continue, then everything one can do to advance unhappiness, poor health and abundant suffering seems to been in line with those values. To hold those values and NOT seek suffering would then be immoral in one's own case.
As it happens, most of us - perhaps all of us - exist somewhere in between absolute love of our own life and absolute hatred for it. Either consciously or unconsciously, we waver on just what our values are at any one moment either through ignorance, laziness, denial, or deception. We may adamantly profess love of our own lives and yet, from day to day we behave in ways that are inexplicable in the face of that professed value. Even those who swear up and down to be entirely miserable and who profess to hate themselves, their own lives and the lives of most others will then behave in ways incredibly inconsistent with what they profess. I cannot entirely explain why life-lovers and life-haters differ in behavior from what they claim to value except that it is perhaps lack of practice in consistency in one's values and, as I've observed to be true, lack of willpower to get the practice needed. Perhaps most of us KNOW what we ought to value but our laziness or outright apathy keeps us from pursuing it and achieving it.
In any event, although I do not believe suffering to have inherent value nor that suffering ought to be pursued deliberately, the latter mainly because I cannot see my way to genuinely hating being alive and deliberately seeking pain over pleasure, I do believe that, at times, when one suffers, assuming one adopts the necessary attitude during and after, some good can come of suffering. As I said, however, if the same lessons can be learned without suffering, I believe that is the preferred route to take.
If a life does not seek more life, healthy life, and happy life, I have to wonder if it's deserving of the label "life" in its fullest sense. A life that hates itself, detests pleasure, enjoys dissatisfaction, injury, pain and the constant threat of extinction is incredibly dysfunctional and its own worst enemy. It isn't an agent of life but rather an agent for all that threatens it.
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